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The Hillsdale College Online Courses Podcast

C.S. Lewis on Christianity: Enjoyment and Contemplation

The Hillsdale College Online Courses Podcast

Hillsdale College

Government, Society & Culture, Education, History, Courses

4.6621 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of The Hillsdale College Online Courses Podcast, Jeremiah and Juan discuss the multifaceted nature of C.S. Lewis' worldview before introducing Michael Ward. 

C.S. Lewis’s writings bring the great questions of the Christian faith to life. Through his imaginative and invigorating style, Lewis answers these questions in ways that are compelling to those outside Christianity and energizing to those within the Christian faith.

C.S. Lewis’s account of his conversion in Surprised by Joy  makes a crucial  distinction between contemplation and enjoyment. While Lewis understood the place for theoretical knowledge in the Christian life, he believed it was secondary to the enjoyment of participating fully in the experience of the faith.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Hillsdale College Online Courses podcast.

0:11.5

I'm Jeremiah Regan.

0:12.7

And I'm Juan Dabalos.

0:13.7

We are back with C.S. Lewis on Christianity.

0:16.3

We're going on to the next lecture, enjoyment and contemplation.

0:19.9

I'm excited to go into this lecture because it explains something that became really important

0:24.4

for me to understand in how Lewis views the world, and it'll be important for the next lectures

0:30.0

on how Lewis views prayer in the Bible and suffering in death and heaven and hell.

0:35.2

And that's the idea of the difference between, as the name

0:38.7

of the lecture suggests, enjoyment and contemplation. So what you're finding about Lewis is the way he

0:43.6

views the world is the way, the various ways he views the world. That's right. And how things,

0:49.6

he has a very comprehensive structure of an understanding of the world. And so things are connected.

0:55.9

It's not just he has this idea that's random and unconnected with everything else. And so the way

1:00.4

he views enjoyment and contemplation affects the way he views other things like prayer.

1:04.7

You see that come out in his fiction as well as his nonfiction. There's many scenes in the Narnia

1:10.0

books or in the space trilogy about

1:11.7

enjoyment, reveling, celebrating, feasts, and celebrations. And that's all enjoyment, but there's

1:17.9

also instances in which deep thought is required. And so it's not enjoyment versus contemplation.

1:24.9

It's enjoyment and contemplation. There're two separate activities for different circumstances.

1:30.3

Yeah, and what I love about this, the course in general, is that Dr. Michael Ward,

1:35.0

who teaches the course, goes into writings by Lewis that are less well known.

1:40.2

Even, you know, I've read most of Lewis's books, and I had never read this essay called

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