Welcome to the latest episode of the Shamrock.

I'm Pete Sampson, joined by my co-host, Matt Fortuna in Chicago.

We actually maybe could have done this in person together earlier this week.

Shout out to former Shamrock guest and Notre Dame alum fashion extraordinaire,

Go Wang, for putting out a pretty cool happy hour event at a shop downtown Chicago.

And I think Matt, you and I, we are both recipients of the shamrock bump based on our wardrobe additions that came out of that event.

Literally, hashtag not an ad, but we got some pretty sweet ESQ bombers with shamrock insignia on it.

We were able to meet with some subscribers and listeners, answer a few questions and enjoy a few

tofu chico hard seltzers, if I remember correctly.

And it's just one, I should drive back to South Bend.

Exactly, exactly.

It's fun to see everyone.

Appreciate on the ESQ team hosting us and hope to do something similar soon. Hope to do more in-person events now as the world, hopefully, is normal.

Because I love interacting with our subscribers and listeners. I love the live rooms. I love seeing you guys at games. And season is right around the corner. So we're ready to talk shot.

Well, today on the show, we've got Notre Dame trustee,

Byron Spruwell, who was also the president of league operations with the NBA.

And a former Notre Dame football player who definitely was not a walk on at Notre Dame,

even though I introed him as such,

perhaps conflating him and his son,

Devin,

who was a walk-on at Notre Dame,

a linebacker under Brian Kelly.

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