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All right, everyone, welcome back to By Order of the Faithfuls. Joining us on the show, the one, the only, burglaricious. Bergey, how are you, buddy? Good. How are you guys? Good. Thanks for coming on. We're so excited. I was just listening to your guys' last episodes because it's like, oh, my gosh, the nostalgia of all this. Because Tamara, you and I were filming exactly two months ago right now. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Are you still a faithful? I'm still faithful. Or I'm a murderer faithful, so I guess I'm dead. Yeah, right. Now, I got to ask, Barry, did they ask you to come back for the most recent season? No, I've never got to ask them to come back. Would you go? Oh, yeah, I would go like every season if they let me. Me too. I feel the same way. Yeah, but like, could you ever be a traitor, do you think? I like to say no, just in case I ever do get asked to go back because then if I like,

people would be like, oh, he's always said, no, you could never pull it off. So I would like to keep

that going. That's a yes. Well, Berge, we're bringing you in on the episode of which Tamra gets

murdered. And so I guess I just want to ask from your perspective when you realized who

wasn't coming in that day to breakfast, what you were feeling, what the rest of the cast was

feeling. And if you thought it was a good murder from the traitor standpoint. Hey, no. Oh, gosh. Well, I do think it was a good murder because everyone was like, why the heck would they murder Tamara? That doesn't make any sense. Like, nobody, like, she wasn't on anybody's radar. You were sick, like, the first, like, whole first episode. So, like, you weren't on anybody's radar either. So it makes sense that you would be a good first murder because nobody was thinking about Tamara and you probably were never going to get banished for a while. But the thing that happened was Dan and I were in the library and he's like, he said it's so like cringe-worthy. He's like, I really don't know what's going on since they murdered Tamara. I was like that was like a red alert button for me. He's so bad at this. He ratted himself out. Well, you know, Berge, I don't know if you, actually, I don't know if you do know this. The night before I got murdered, you know how there's a bell that rings at 11 o'clock and you're all done filming? Well, I was in the kitchen with Dan. And I said, and this is where everyone's going, he's so quiet. He's not talking. He's probably, da, da, da. So I said, listen, I've been sick and pretty quiet, not like me. You've been very, very quiet. I said, I feel like we need to get more vocal. Let's stick together. And I had a

suspicion. He was a traitor. I just had a suspicion. And I said, do you trust me? Yes. Do you trust me?

Yes. Okay, we're going to stick together. And I'm going to tell you what I hear. And I figured if I

had him on my side and a traitor got murdered, they'd bring me in.

So the next morning I got murdered.

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