Hello everybody I'm Kenneth Copeland. This is the Believer's voice of victory broadcast. Let's have a word of prayer. We'll get right into today's broadcasting message. Father, we thank you. We are so grateful to you. We are grateful for the demonstration of your power in this great nation.

And we know that our nation has serious, serious problems in it,

but we also know that this is the only nation ever, ever founded on the planet for the express desire to worship and praise you.

And we thank you, sir you will never forget it. We praise

you for it we honor you in it and it's in the name of Jesus we pray.

Amen.

Now we have a very special guest here today.

You may not recognize him just when you see him, but when you say charisma magazine,

oh yeah I know that guy Well, this is the guy.

Stephen's strength. Stephen, God bless you, sir.

And God bless you, thank you for having me.

A partner to this ministry for a long, long lot of years.

We've been together 40 years.

I remember the cover, my lord, I don't know why you wanted a mug like this on the cover of the magazine but that's your problem

The 40th anniversary of the magazine and I thought what this guy's done, man.

It's just, you just bless me for a long, long, long time.

And you've blessed me, you know, I was a young journalist.

Chryzma magazine wasn't very big.

I flew out here to do an interview with you and your

ministry was just starting to explode. You were on the radio but you weren't yet on

TV. Oh those were the days. And you had you didn't have these nice facilities here back then.

I didn't have any facility.

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