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off your order with a promo code recode. Thank you, Mac Weldon. This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. We're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network, talking to you from the Vox Media Auxiliary Podcast Studio. I think it's actually a video studio, but it works for today. I'm here with Kenny Lairor. Kenny, Kenneth, what's the best way to address you, Mr. Ler? Mr. Lairor, do you?

Mr. Lairor, Kenny. Okay, Kenner-Kennie. If you spend any time thinking or writing about media like I do, you're going to encounter Mr. Lair. I write about old media and new media and the way those two things intersect. You're kind of the definition of that your career in terms of what you've done in the past, what you're doing now. I was going to just read through your entire Wikipedia,

but it's a pretty short Wikipedia.

It's missing some stuff. I don't believe in editing one's Wikipedia for good or for bad. Among other things Mr. Lair has done in the past, he was a co-founder of Huffington Post. I was teasing about Mr. Lier, you know. Yeah, I know. Okay. He's currently chairman of BuzzFeed, a major investor there. You invested in a bunch of media properties which you've now, and your kids ran and you've now sold to Discovery. We didn't sound to it. A joint venture with Discovery. They invested. They invested. You're on the board of Viacom. I am. What else I'm missing? You were an early AOL executive, both prior to and after the time, Warner merger?

I wasn't actually an executive until a little bit before the merger.

I was a consultant for a while.

Consulted at MTV?

At AOL.

Yeah, and you were consulting at MTV at one point? Oh, when I was four.

We're going way back. You started what was one of the bigger, more prominent PR firms, Robinson Lair, Montgomery. Do I got the name right? You do? At one point, if you... This makes me very tired. If you're very old, you'll know the name Michael Milken. You used to do work for him. So sad.

And now we're done.

We've done the entire life story.

Okay.

Thank you.

The point of this was to give people who don't know you and they should know you just to send Michael Milken used to do work for him. So sad. And now we're done. We've done the entire life story. Okay.

Thank you.

The point of this was to give people who don't know you and they should know you, just a sense of the scope of sort of what you've done, what you're seeing, and why you're here. So thanks again for sitting through the bio. You're literally just yawning and falling asleep as we talk. That's okay. I want to talk about politics first, prick you out.

It's depressing.

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