But what is Britain anyway?
The Two Matts
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4.4 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 15 April 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
The row over Chinese investment in British Steel opens up a whole can of worms for the Matts. How does an astroturf football pitch in Copenhagen, Argentinian Che Guevara and a steelworks in Scunthorpe all add to the debate? Only one way to find out … listen! Also this week - congratulations to Douglas Murray, right-wing author and commentator, for giving the almighty king of podcasting, Joe Rogan, some serious home truths. How can people maintain a grip on reality when podcasts they tune into are so ready to platform, to use Murray’s phrase, pure horsesh!t. It’s a podcast full of the big questions this week - enjoy!
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there, this is Matt Kelly, the editor-in-chief of the New European newspaper and one half of the |
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| 1:01.1 | Hello and happy Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, one and all. Welcome to the two mats podcast, |
| 1:07.2 | brought to you by the subscribers of the new European. Absolutely. We're talking this week, Matt, about steel. |
| 1:13.6 | We're starting off with that. |
| 1:14.5 | We start with steel because on Saturday, as I hope most people know by now, |
| 1:20.2 | Parliament sat for the first time on a Saturday since the Falklands. |
| 1:23.5 | Quite a long time. |
| 1:25.0 | In order to take control, the government could take control of British Steel and Scunthorpe from the Chinese owner's King Ye. |
| 1:31.6 | And this is the last sort of furnaces in the UK. |
| 1:36.5 | Blast furnace, yeah. |
| 1:37.6 | Yeah, blast furnaces that can make virgin steel. |
| 1:40.2 | And here's, just to give you a taste of where we're at, here's the business minister this |
| 1:45.9 | morning, Tuesday on the Today program, sort of desperately trying to square the circle of acknowledging |
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