But what do you really want? [CISOP]

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🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Despite being adopted and prioritized by many organizations, cybersecurity still faces a significant challenge where leaders still cannot articulate their needs, and find and develop talent. Rather, organizations oftentimes follow the same strategy many others are utilizing, which involves poaching talent with enticing salaries. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ed Vasko, the CEO at High Wire Networks, to discuss this approach and the impacts it is having on the cyber talent ecosystem. Throughout the conversation, Ed and Kim discuss their experience when assessing talent and some of the mistakes made by the industry, and what can be done to begin correcting this approach. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Cyberwire Network, powered by N2K.
0:09.5	This exclusive N2K Pro subscriber-only episode of CISO Perspectives has been unlocked for all Cyberwire listeners through the generous support of Meter,
0:23.1	building full-stack zero-trust networks from the ground up.
0:25.1	Trusted by security and network leaders everywhere,
0:28.0	meter delivers fast, secure by design,
0:30.5	and scalable connectivity
0:31.9	without the frustration, friction,
0:34.6	complexity, and cost
0:36.1	of managing an endless proliferation of vendors and tools.
0:40.3	Meter gives your enterprise a complete networking stack, secure wired, wireless, and cellular
0:46.3	in one integrated solution built for performance, resilience, and scale.
0:51.6	Go to meter.com slash CISOP today to learn more and book your demo.
0:57.5	That's M-E-T-E-R.com slash C-I-S-O-P.
1:07.1	Welcome back to CO Perspectives.
1:11.6	I'm Kim Jones, and I'm thrilled that you're here for this season's journey.
1:16.1	This past season, we've pulled the deep conversations out of the conference bar to tackle
1:20.9	these complex issues from every conceivable angle.
1:24.6	And throughout the season, we've examined many of the challenges surrounding the cyber
1:30.3	talent ecosystem.
1:33.4	Today, we ask the question, but what do you really want?
1:39.1	Let's get into it.
2:06.1	Yeah. to it. On today's episode. On today's episode, I'm excited to sit down with Ed Vasco.
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