Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Sarah Isger, and I've got the OG crew, David French, Steve Hayes, Jonah Goldberg, and we're going to do

this podcast a little differently than some of our usual ones in that there has been so much

sound and fury around Doge, around the first month of the Trump administration, I want to take inventory,

but instead of, you know, the usual, I don't know, whatever it is, I want to actually talk about

things that have been done. So rhetoric doesn't count how something might, something, something,

something doesn't count. It has to be something doesn't count it has to be in

the first month something that was accomplished and then whether it was good or bad or anything else

that we can talk about and then also want to talk about chili and kid free spaces but we'll get to

that we'll get to that first up Jonah can you tell me something that the Trump administration has done in the first

month and your thoughts about it?

Sure.

As everyone knows, I'm a deep and granular expert on health policy.

And so the administration's announcement that they were going to wildly cut

the reimbursement rate for NIH funding of basic research. We'll see like a caveat, right?

So before I'm going to head off Sarah's thing. You already know. You started with they announced.

It's all pending. Like it has to, there's stuff that has to be worked out with Congress., there's stuff that has be worked out with Congress.

There's stuff that has to be worked out with courts.

The simple fact, though, is that the payments, large amounts of payments have stopped.

Like, just the simple transfer of funding is all gumbed up.

And even to the extent that the funding is still going through, the budget planning

is all gummed up. And people are freezing things, not knowing what they're going to be able to pay

for and what they're not. As you can imagine, everyone's holding on grants, on improving grants,

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