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Emma Rosenblum is the author of Very Bad Company, a novel.

This is her second time on the podcast.

She was previously on for her

best-selling novel, Bad Summer People. Emma is the chief content officer at Bustle Digital Group,

overseeing content and strategy for Bustle, Elite Daily, Nylon, The Zoe Report, Rompter,

Scary Mommy, the Dad, and Inverse. Welcome, Emma. Thanks for coming back on on moms. Don't have time to read books to discuss very bad company. Congratulations. Thank you. It's so nice to see you, and I'm excited to talk about this. Well, thank you for taking me to the one hotel in Miami. I had a lovely escape. I've been there before, and I was like, oh, I like nudged my husband. I'm like,

guess where I get to go tonight? I'm going to the one hotel in this book. So anyway,

tell listeners about the story, how you came up with it and all of the, all of the antics.

Sure. So this book follows a team of executives at a startup, a tech startup, an ad tech startup. And they are all going down to the one hotel in Miami for a team building retreat. And there's a new employee. There's older employees. It's a mix of funny characters. And when they get there, they find out that the company is on the

verge of being sold, which is very exciting for them because that means they're all going to make

a lot of money, hopefully. And they have a big drunken night out celebration. And then the next morning,

they reconvene for breakfast as per their schedule. And one of the executives is missing.

And they don't know what's happened.

Is she dead or is she alive? And they kind of go from there. So it's a dark, humorous take on kind of tech world, workplace shenanigans and greed. as all my books are about.

That's amazing. And you pulled off something very complicated, which is developing a lot of

characters at the same time. Often, there's a smaller cast of character. There's a family

or there's, you know, but here we have the entire sort of executive team and everybody

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