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Welcome to the Thrive Time Show on Talk Radio 1170.

All right Thrive Nation, welcome back to this Black Friday edition of the Thrive Time Show on your radio.

My name is Clay Clark in the former US SBA entrepreneur of the year.

And typically we are joined here with the incredible entrepreneur and optometrist, Dr. Robert Zelner.

But he is out expanding his vast entrepreneurial empire, probably enjoying some leftovers from yesterday's Thanksgiving feast.

And so today, inside the box that rocks, we are joined with none other than my brother from another mother.

It is Mr. Eric Chup, the business coach who is kind of like a secret weapon.

A lot of people don't realize the power of having a business coach because they feel stuck and they feel like that everyone's stuck.

Because if you look at the data, Forbes shows that eight out of ten businesses are failing.

And so they don't know what to do.

And so they just kind of die a silent death of just every year realizing our business isn't going to grow.

Hopefully we can just survive.

But Paul Graham, the guy who were breaking down his life and times today, the guy who built Dropbox, the guy who built Airbnb,

this is what he would say to you.

If you feel stuck, if you feel like your business isn't going to the next level, he would say this is why he would advocate hiring a business coach like Eric Chup.

He says, like having a child, running a startup is the sort of experience that's hard to imagine unless you've done it yourself.

The best source of advice for new founders is not professors or investors, but from other founders, from someone like a business coach.

And so these are, this is very, this is very tough for a lot of people to realize that you don't know what you don't know Chup.

Right.

Can you break it down when you work with the business coach client that they're in that first month?

Yeah.

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