And now, podcasting from the center of the universe and the Thrive15.com world headquarters.

Let's go.

Presenting the world's only business school without the BS with optometrist and entrepreneur, Dr. Robert Selner,

and the Forest Hall Business Administration Entrepreneur in the

year in your ear.

Clay Clark is the Thrive Time Show on Talk Radio 1170.

Three, two, one.

Boom.

What is going on, Tulsa?

It's a Monday, a magic Monday, and it's a fun day here at the Thrive15.com World Headquarters.

You're listening to your new favorite radio show, the Thrive Time show. And as always,

I am joined with a man who has really approached almost mythological levels in Tulsa. He's a guy that

you, if you're in your car, and you look left, you look right,

you're probably going to see a Zee. And when you see that Zorro, you're going to say, is that Zorro or is that Dr. Zellner? And then you're going to know right there, that is the man with the plan. It's Dr. Zellner. Sir, how are you? I am fantastic. And happy Monday to you, start of the week driving home you just you punched your first day off and now you're doing a little

thrive time on your drive time.

And we have a very special guest today.

We have Ms. Ann Hanford.

Now, I want to make sure I'm getting this correct.

You are the former national slash international sales rep of the year for ValPAC.

Is that correct?

That's absolutely correct.

Unbelievable. We are amongst a a we have a celebrity gathering here. We've got Dr. Z, we've got Ann, and we're talking about

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