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Welcome back to the conversation. We're joined here today with Pastor Brian Gibson and

Pastor Jesse Gibson from River City Church and we're talking about boundary setting.

I'm specifically when you have a thriving organization, a growing organization. I'll

just say when you have more customers than whose names you can't remember. This is how

this is when this gets real. When you have more, when you only have like 10 customers,

you know, it's, I know chiropractors, I know doctors who they have, you know, 25 customers.

I literally know doctors that have 25 patients. You say, how's that possible? What they do

is they have this thing called concier medical. So you have medical insurance, but you might

shell out $1,500 a month to your doctor and then he's just always available for you

and just 15 other patients. And so when you're doing that, I mean, it's a premium service.

Okay. And so maybe it'd be more reachable, but if you have like 100 patients or 200 patients

or a thousand, eventually you reach a breaking point where you can no longer know their

names. So I want to ask you this, Pastor Brian, when you have a thousand people attending

your church and your cell phone number has been shared with people, how do you know when

to turn the phone off? How do you do it? How do you do it? You know, we started the church.

This is crazy. But looking back, not knowing the things we know now, we started the church

with some billboards whenever we went first Sunday morning services, got some money together,

don't have a lot of money, but we were going to, we're going all in, right? So we put billboards

up, River City church coming and it had a number to call if you were interested and that

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