On today's show, we are interviewing the New York Times bestselling author, corporate trainer and speaker who specializes in the topics of leadership, culture, sales, and teamwork.

John Gordon is most widely known for his best selling books, although he's not actually very wide at all.

I just want to get that clarity out there for the thrive nation.

I'm visually speaking, he's a very thin man. Back back to you, credit.

Thank you for that clarification. And so as I was saying, he's best known for his best selling books, the energy bus, 10 rules to fuel your life, work, and team with positive energy.

And he's the best selling author of the power of a positive team, proven principles and practices that make great teams great.

Oh, can I just just quick time out here? I just want to tell you I'm not feeling I'm not picking up the energy.

The sky wrote the book called the energy bus. Come on, man, bring the sizzle.

Sure. Okay, fine. I'll step it up a little bit here. Throughout John's career, he has worked with so many top tier athletic organizations.

It's mind blowing. He's worked with the Los Angeles Dodgers, the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Okay, I hate to do this to you, but I hate to throw you under the energy bus, but so far I'm not very impressed.

Um, you could have thrown in like a pirate joke there as an example.

Can I? What's a pirate's favorite question? I have no idea. I don't know.

Are you ready for John Gordon? Yes, you and I did right there.

See, he works on the Pittsburgh Pirates. And I made it into the pirate joke.

I said, are it. It took me like three hours to come up with that. Come on, Clay.

Listen, if you interrupt me one more time, I'm going to come behind that glass,

and I'm going to gouge out your eyeballs. Well, it sounds like you're motivated now, Tiger.

Where did the energy come from? What a three on the energy bus, but I'm glad you could join us.

I'm glad you finally woke up and brought some energy to the track.

The San Diego Padres, the Miami Heat, the Oklahoma City Thunder, the Atlanta Falcons, the Climbs and Tigers,

the Philadelphia Eagles, and many, many Fortune 500 companies, including Wells Fargo,

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