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The Bottom Line

Business in the era of #MeToo

The Bottom Line

BBC

Personal Journals, Business, Society & Culture

4.6615 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2018

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Has the #MeToo movement made businesses change the way they deal with sexual harassment and gender equality claims in the workplace? Does the law around non-disclosure agreements - often used to hush up this kind of behaviour - need to be changed? Evan Davis and guests discuss. GUESTS

Samantha Mangwana, Employment Lawyer, Partner, CM Murray

Zelda Perkins, Campaigner and Theatrical Producer

Octavius Black, CEO and Co-founder, TheMindGym

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.3

In this edition of the bottom line, we're asking how business is and should be changing in the era of Me Too.

0:12.5

Hello, welcome to the programme.

0:14.6

Over the last year, there has been an extraordinary recalibration of social attitudes towards sexual harassment and bullying.

0:22.0

Number one, boundaries have shifted, things that were considered bad, are now totally unacceptable,

0:27.6

touching inappropriately degrading colleagues through sexual banter.

0:31.2

For decades these have been frowned upon, but they're now widely seen as sackable offences.

0:35.9

But there's a second development here as well.

0:38.4

Since the Harvey Weinstein revelations emerged last year,

0:42.2

those subject to inappropriate behaviour have chosen to call it out.

0:45.9

No longer is there an expectation that anyone should have to put up with it by keeping quiet.

0:51.5

Well, in business, this is all having a profound effect.

0:55.3

Individual cases have hit the headlines. Accusations made against Sir Philip Green, for example. And companies are, or should be,

1:02.0

working out how to deal with cases. No longer is it okay to pay off perpetrators and bribe victims

1:07.5

into silence? Or is that what companies still think they should be doing?

1:12.1

Well, today we'll look at business in the Me Too era, and I have three excellent guests around

1:16.9

the table to discuss what business should be doing to change its ways. And my first guest is Zelda

1:22.8

Perkins, who worked as an assistant to film producer Harvey Weinstein. She broke a non-disclosure agreement, an NDA,

1:30.0

to talk about her experience in that role.

1:32.8

She's now an associate producer for a theatrical production company,

1:35.9

but for the past year and a half has been campaigning for changes to the law

1:39.0

on the basis of her own experience.

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