From the BBC World Service.

He knew his way around the underground.

I would never imagine he was capable of doing what he did.

Launder.

Tens of millions of dollars for the North Korean.

The Lazarus Heist, Season 2, is available now.

Find it wherever you get your podcasts.

I've come to a gaming cafe in East London, which specialises in board games.

The shelves along its corridor are jam-packed with dozens and dozens of boxes

containing games of every kind you can imagine, from Cludeau and Monopoly

to some very obscure fantasy adventure ones.

But I've come here to play someone at one of the oldest games of all.

There are more chess moves options than atoms in the universe.

I'm Dougal Shaw and welcome to another edition of Business Daily Meats on the BBC World Service.

This is where we bring you

in-depth interviews with people in business from across the globe. In countries like India, Brazil,

Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, chess was booming because of chess and schools programs.

Queen's Gambit definitely helped. Made people pick up chess, especially those who already played something.

It was kind of a reminder.

My guest and opponents today is Ilya Merenzon.

He is the CEO of World's Chess, a company that organizes global chess tournaments

and also runs an online platform for playing chess, both of which are recognized by the

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