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Business Daily Meets: Estonia’s first billionaire

Business Daily

BBC

Business

4.4816 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2022

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

In the first episode of our new strand - Business Daily Meets - we hear from Estonia’s first billionaire, Kristo Käärmann.

In this in-depth interview the TransferWise (now Wise) co-founder and CEO explains how a €500 loss led to the creation of a multi-billion dollar business.

He tells us about creating something from nothing, keeping his ego in check, and insists saving customers $1 billion a year is only the start of the journey.

Presenter: Rahul Tandon Producer: Sam Clack

Image: Kristo Käärmann; Credit: Jake Farra/Wise

Transcript

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0:00.0

I had this secret. I robbed banks in my spare time.

0:06.4

Lives less ordinary from the BBC World Service.

0:09.6

This is not a good thing to do because police are after you.

0:14.9

Find out more at the end of this podcast.

0:18.6

Today here on Business Daily, we're launching a new strand on the program.

0:22.0

It's called Business Daily Meets.

0:23.7

We're going to bring you in-depth interviews from people all over the world who've had huge success

0:28.9

or who've made their mark in some way on the business world.

0:33.0

First up, Estonia's first billionaire, Christo Carmen.

0:36.2

Having seen it is possible to do new things out of nothing

0:41.7

or build on an empty spot, it was certainly inspiring for us.

0:46.1

Christo made his fortune by creating a money exchange system.

0:49.8

It was initially a very small idea to save money for himself.

0:54.5

It's become a huge enterprise.

0:56.9

As well as being worth a billion himself, he saves his customers that amount of money every

1:02.1

single year.

1:02.8

We're in the space where, yes, we've done really well and we've had a lot of impact, but the

1:09.1

whole problem is still so enormous that it feels like we're still nibbling on the edges yet.

1:13.9

I'm Rahul Tandon and I'll ask Christo all about how his business grew, how he measures his own success,

1:20.5

and what advice he would give to anyone wanting to follow in his footsteps.

1:26.4

Becoming Estonia's very first billionaire, that is quite an achievement.

1:30.3

But before we hear from Christo Carmen, let's hear a bit more about the country that he comes

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