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The Liz Moody Podcast

Burnt Out? You Don’t Need a New Job—You Need This

The Liz Moody Podcast

Liz Moody

Self-improvement, Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.93.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever wondered if you’re burnt out or if this is just the price of participation in the modern economic climate? And what if you can't change jobs? Is it possible to make your job more purposeful and satisfying, even if you're trapped in it?  I chat with Amina AlTai, the author of The Ambition Trap and an executive coach who's helped thousands of women optimize their work lives. She answers all of these questions and gets into why you’re burnt out and exactly what you can do about it, no matter your situation—if you’re stuck in a job you hate, if you’re looking for a new job, if you love your job but it’s exhausting you—you’ll end this episode with pragmatic steps to feel better ASAP. 🎧 What you’ll learn: • The 3 types of burnout and how to identify which one you have • The 5-part framework for purposeful work—use it to decide if you should stay in your job or quit • How to tell if you're in the wrong career (before you waste years feeling miserable) • The hidden wounds driving your overwork—and how to stop seeking validation through achievement • Why your "zone of genius" matters more than your passion (and how to find yours in 3 steps) • The 60/40 rule: the exact ratio you need to avoid burnout  • How to spot burnout red flags during a job interview (so you never accept the wrong offer again) • The best type of vacation for actually healing burnout  • Why invisible labor is draining you—and how to stop being the "office therapist" • The one question to ask yourself on Sunday night to eliminate the Sunday scaries • How to set boundaries at work without getting fired (using the SBIS framework) • The mapping practice that regulates your nervous system in 2 minutes If you liked this episode, check out these previous episodes of The Liz Moody Podcast: • Game Plan For When You Feel Stuck, Unmotivated Or Burnt Out: Simple, Science-Backed Hacks That WORK • How To Figure Out Your Dream Career (And Actually Get It!) For more from Amina AlTai: • Book, The Ambition Trap: https://www.aminaaltai.com/book  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aminaaltai/  • Website: https://www.aminaaltai.com/  Ready to uplevel every part of your life? Order Liz’s book 100 Ways to Change Your Life: The Science of Leveling Up Health, Happiness, Relationships & Success now!  Connect with Liz on Instagram @lizmoody or online at www.lizmoody.com. Subscribe to the substack by visiting https://lizmoody.substack.com/welcome.Buy our cute sweatshirts, conversation cards, and more at https://shop.lizmoody.com/. Use our discount codes from our  highly vetted and tested brand partners by visiting https://www.lizmoody.com/codes.  To join The Liz Moody Podcast Club Facebook group, go to www.facebook.com/groups/thelizmoodypodcast. This episode is brought to you completely free thanks to the following podcast sponsors: • Fatty15: visit Fatty15.com/LizMoody and use code LIZMOODY at checkout to get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription starter kit. • Avocado: check out AvocadoGreenMattress.com for up to 20% off organic mattresses + more. • LMNT: head to DrinkLMNT.com/Liz to get a FREE 8-count sample pack with any order. • Marley Spoon: check out MarleySpoon.com/offer/LizMoody to get up to 25 FREE meals. • NOCD: to learn more about starting OCD therapy with NOCD, go to NOCD.com and book a free call. •  Puori: go to Puori.com/LizMood and enter code LIZMOODY to get $49 in savings when you get your Puori Grass-Fed Whey when you start a subscription. The Liz Moody Podcast cover art by Zack. The Liz Moody Podcast music by Alex Ruimy. Formerly the Healthier Together Podcast.  This podcast and website represents the opinions of Liz Moody and her guests to the show. The content here should not be taken as medical advice. The content here is for information purposes only, and because each person is so unique, please consult your healthcare professional for any medical questions. The Liz Moody Podcast Episode 404. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Have you ever wondered if you are burnt out or if this is just like what life feels like these days?

0:05.8

Have you ever wondered if your tiredness, your lack of motivation, means that you need a new job,

0:10.8

or if this is just the price of participation in the modern economic climate?

0:15.4

And what if you can't change jobs? You need the money or the market's bad or any number of reasons.

0:20.5

How do you make your job more purposeful, more satisfying if you're trapped in it? You need the money or the market's bad or any number of reasons.

0:24.8

How do you make your job more purposeful, more satisfying if you're trapped in it?

0:28.4

Today we're having on Amina Altai, the author of The Ambition Trap.

0:32.6

She is an executive coach who's helped thousands of women optimize their work lives.

0:38.2

We are talking about the hidden reasons that so many of us are burnt out, including some that really, really surprised me that I've never heard anywhere else before.

0:41.2

We're talking about how you can tell before you even get a job if it's going to burn you

0:45.7

out and how you can find the best job fit that will make you feel energized and satisfied

0:50.4

on a regular basis.

0:52.7

We're talking about the best type of vacation for curing burnout and so

0:56.9

much more. Welcome to the Liz Moody podcast where we skip past Fluffy BS. You can do it self-help to get

1:04.1

to the actual solutions to your real problems. So you can feel as good as possible every single day.

1:12.3

I'm going to welcome to the podcast.

1:17.5

Thank you so much for having me. I want to start with how can somebody know if they're burnt out?

1:23.0

Like how do we know what burnout feels like? First of all, are you feeling exhausted? When you get to work for the day, are you having trouble getting started? Do you need those five cups of coffee?

1:27.0

Jumpstart your motivation for the day? Are you starting to feel that negativism, cynicism,

1:32.7

not just for your work, but for your coworkers, for other constituents that you support too?

1:37.2

Are you starting to feel like it's laborious and burdensome to connect with them?

1:41.9

And things that you used to really care about and be delighted about, you're starting to feel like, actually, I don't really care about that thing. It almost makes me feel empty. People also have physical symptoms, too, right? So a lot of the times it manifests as GI issues, hair loss, brain fog, things like that, too. Are there types of work, though, that lead to burnout more? like if we are not working in line with our values, is that going to lead to burnout more? Okay, I'm going to answer this kind of backwards, but I feel like there's five things that really contribute to burnout. The first is biology. So women and people with a uterus, we have a tendency to become dysregulated and stay dysregulated longer because of something called corticotropin release factor. And listen, I am by no means an expert on the biology piece of this. I've just looked at the research and it takes us a little bit longer to process those chemicals and then stay in that state of dysregulation. Okay, so this is actually biological. This is something that's happening in our brains and our bodies with our hormones, etc. Exactly. So we just have to be a little bit of aware of that, right? I think of it like babies with Fontenelles, right? We have a little bit of a soft spot and we just have to be conscious that we have that tendency. The next piece is invisible labor. So invisible labor is the work that's unseen and unpaid for. And so many of us do that, especially women, we do that at work and we do that at home. Right. So it's, you know, offering to be the office therapist or take the notes, all of those types of things, doing too much of that contip us into burnout. Then there's visible labor. So that's the work that we do that's seen and paid for. And so many of us do way too much of it. Actually, I was reading, my book was part of the next big idea club. And one of their books of the day was talking about how we should move into a four-day work week because historically, people only worked 15 hours a week, but it was the industrial revolution that led us to the five days. So we're all doing way too much of the visible labor anyway.

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