Presence is the process through which we actually become productive, right?

If you're trying to do something, if your intention is to do something,

and we all have moments like this, often we can't muster the presence to do that.

We can't show up.

You know, our mind is resisting the task maybe because it's at a lower stimulation height, whatever the reason,

right? And the fact of the matter is presence is what productivity is all about. That is where

the rubber meets the road. And so much, I'd say 70, 80, maybe even 90% of productivity, maybe 80% of productivity advice

is about cultivating the conditions for presence. It's about managing your time,

your attention, your energy, which I consider to be the three main ingredients with productivity,

it's managing those in a way that you cultivate the conditions to be able to show up to

whatever it is that you intend to do.

Those wise words were from Chris Bailey.

Chris says, in an anxious world, the path to productivity runs directly through calm.

Now, I have done a lot of research on productivity with the goal of just getting the most out

of one precious life. I think that's a, there's a very admirable quality.

It's something I'm proud of. And yet, those of us sort of, uh, who tend to fidget or always busy or,

you know, pack our calendars a little bit too full, there's something wrong there too, right? That borders on

hustle culture. And that is one of the reasons that Chris has a fantastic guest for today. There

is a line between productivity and being calm. And the relationship, as he said in his cold open

there just a moment ago, between presence and our

ability to get things done and especially to add meaning to our lives. I just love that. So our

conversation today, mine and Chris's, Chris Bailey, he has written a book called How to Calm

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