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🗓️ 22 April 2025
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#288: Who said you have to have it all figured out? What if the messy middle is actually where the luck happens?
In this episode, I’m joined by Devi Brown— master wellbeing educator, healer, host of Deeply Well, and author of the book “Living in Wisdom” to talk about what it’s really like to grow, heal, and build something meaningful.
We get into being a beginner, giving yourself grace, and learning how to move with intention even when you’re not totally sure what’s next. If you’ve ever felt stuck, burnt out, or unsure of your path—this one’s for you.
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0:00.0 | The following podcast is a Dear Media production. |
0:20.8 | Debbie, welcome to the show. |
0:22.9 | Thank you. |
0:23.9 | I'm so, so, so happy to be here. |
0:26.5 | I'm really happy to have you because you're actually somebody who I've wanted on the show for a really long time. |
0:31.4 | And it was one of those things where I don't know if I ever really like pitched you or like pushed for it, but I was like, |
0:38.2 | when the time is right, she'll be here. Yeah. It just is like, I knew we would, we would get an |
0:42.0 | episode together when the time is right. And now it's the time. I feel it. Yeah. Always like, |
0:46.8 | yeah, the alignment, right? Like it'll come in no matter what. You don't have to plan for it. Exactly. Yeah. And with you having a new book, it was like the perfect |
0:54.7 | perfect time. By the way, congratulations on everything, because you've been doing this |
1:00.4 | amazing show just like really kind of elevating the wellness space for so long. And I love the |
1:07.1 | way that you are and letting your audience evolve into like the new kind of nuanced layers |
1:12.5 | and the elevated, you know, the next steps on what this journey is on like being able to live it, |
1:18.9 | not just kind of, you know, patch our wounds together, but then how do you now live it once |
1:24.4 | you've done the work? I appreciate that so much. I have been in this season of |
1:29.9 | what I've been calling kind of the awkward in between, which I've mentioned on the podcast a little |
1:34.4 | bit, but this kind of messy middle that I think a lot of people kind of gloss over in terms of how |
1:40.5 | they show up publicly, where it's like, you know, you might have your beginning stages where you're just getting started. |
1:45.4 | And then it's like all of a sudden, someone is super successful in this polished version of themselves. |
1:50.2 | And I feel like I'm in between those two stages, but being honest about it. |
1:55.0 | Yeah. |
1:55.6 | Really messy. |
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