One, two, three.

Just give me patience.

Yeah.

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How do you like to say your name? What's your pronunciation of truth? Either way. Like, dude, I say Rishi. I sometimes say Rishi. Yeah, yeah, however. And then your last name? Menon. Menon. Okay. Remember the diodon company, by Menon? Yeah, by Mennon. Yes. Yeah, you know, look at that. The tones and everything, man. Dude, Rishi Menon, now I'll never forget your last name because I'm just smelling my pits going, bro.

What was it?

Um. Look at that. The tones and everything, man. Dude, Rishi Menon, now I'll never forget your last name because I'm just smelling my pits going, bro.

What was it?

Oh, Menon. That's right. By Menon. Yes. That's the start of the podcast, you realize. Boom. I love it, man. Well, you know what sucks is that? Like, I use that for years. And now when I use that with people, they're like, oh, I don't know.

I don't get it because the 80s are done.

That's the problem.

And the 90s are gone.

I just saw a thing about... and now when I use that with people, they're like, oh, I don't know. I don't get it because the 80s are done.

That's the problem. And the 90s are gone. I just saw a thing about stuff from the 80s that like kids like Gen X will still remember. You're a solid millennial, right? I know. I'm like an elder millennial, zolennial, if you will. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Geriatric millennial. that's right.

Jerry Mill.

Has anybody said that?

Because that's got to be the thing now. We just coined it. Just like our non-duality only fans. What did you call it? Only ones? Only ones. Only one, right?

It's it's non. Oh, yeah, that's good. We have to do that. Spiritual porn, man, I'm telling you. I mean, that's what most of spirituality is. It's selling something to the mind that's like, oh, I want that. I want that to kind of enlightenment. I want like what Rishi and Zuban have because they can make jokes and still like pretend to be, you know, have all this equanimity

and be okay with everything. When in reality, just before I was telling you, yeah, fuck all these people. Like, Zubin gets mad. Yes. It gets irritated. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's so beautiful, too, right? This idea that actually spiritual porn is the best example of it. It's not the thing that it's supposed to be, right? It's this thing that feels pleasurable, but it's not what it's

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