Let's talk to Sir Neil Sharma, this will commentator, host him in the Rational Voices with Sir Neil podcast.

Sir Neil, very good to see you.

Good morning, Mike.

Nice to talk to you. Let's talk about what's going on on the front

lines of Labor. Massive, massive rebellion coming on this grooming gang story. I think they've got

it incredibly wrong. You know, Jess Phillips thought she could sneak it into the end of the final

session of Parliament just the other day. I think it was Tuesday. And it turns out that it's blown up in their faces,

isn't it? Yeah, for sure. I think the reality is Labor are trying to cover this up,

we'll give it less attention as needs. I think we all know why a lot of this stuff happening

Labour-led councils. They don't want to lose that demographic vote. So naturally, they going to try and not do anything with this with this groom against scandal.

I think great attention needs to be drawn on this.

It is sick.

It is worrying that the fact that the safety of young girls is not the top priority of our leader.

When we know for a fact that they've been assaulted, groomed,

all these different things of the last 10, 15, 20 years, and it's out there, it's in the open,

it's in plain sight. What kind of message does it send to the rest of the country when our leadership,

our current government, are not prepared to take the harshest possible action? I think it's

really sick.

It's really messed up. And I think a lot of people, if they're not angry enough right now,

will be further angered by what's going on. Well, this is it. And I mean, there's a grassroots rebellion, which is bubbling under and getting bigger and bigger by the day. It's a campaign group called

Blue Labor. They're calling it a national evil that requires

a national response, rather similar to what you were saying. And basically, Kirstama's

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