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The Aggressive Life with Brian Tome

Burning the Ships with Luke Smallbone—for KING & COUNTRY

The Aggressive Life with Brian Tome

Crossroads

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9756 Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Even with a slew of Grammys and hit singles, for KING & COUNTRY aren’t resting on their laurels. Known for their live shows and unflinching songwriting, cofounder and drummer, Luke Smallbone, pulls no punches in an aggressive conversation about eliminating fear, encouraging creativity, and why most Christian music sucks. 

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Aggressive Life.

0:08.7

There's a legend about the Spanish conquistador Cortez, which, by the way, one of the most mesmerizing books I've ever read is called Conquistador.

0:19.8

It is just amazing. It's not amazing that this guy just

0:24.0

abused Mexicans and led to the pillaging of a country. But it's, it really is a fascinating tale of

0:30.8

history. And it said that after he landed in the new world, his men didn't want to embark into the unknown.

0:39.2

They wanted to stay on the ships.

0:40.8

They wanted to leave themselves and out.

0:43.0

And so what did he do?

0:44.1

He burned the ships.

0:45.5

Gather them all on the shore and gave his generals the orders to eliminate their exit plan, their safety plan.

0:53.7

That's a crazy, crazy story.

0:55.7

But it's always inspired me to think through what exit plans am I keeping around and am I

1:01.0

burning the ships going forward?

1:03.6

We've got an artist with us today who's done a good number of burning of the ships.

1:08.0

In fact, it's been an inspiration for one of their works of art.

1:10.8

He's a part of the band, King, and Country.

1:14.5

They're known for their amazing shows.

1:17.5

Someone would call them mesmerizing.

1:19.2

They're known for their songwriting.

1:21.8

It would be called Honest Songwriting.

1:23.7

Though I'm not sure exactly, Luke, what dishonest songwriting is.

1:26.4

But you've got a different

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