Hey everyone, I'm Amy Scott, host of How We Survive. Last week, a massive spending and tax cut bill,

officially named the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, was signed into law by President Trump. It includes

major cuts to the clean energy incentives in the Biden administration's signature climate law, the 2022

Inflation Reduction Act. To learn more about the climate impacts of the new law, I called up

Shannon Osaka. She's the climate zeitgeist reporter at the Washington Post.

Shannon gives some practical tips for consumers looking to take advantage of clean energy tax credits while they're still around.

Plus, we discuss how these cuts will affect the U.S. energy transition, our global competitiveness, and we get into what it all means for the climate crisis.

As our planet gets hotter and disasters,

like what we saw in Texas over the July 4th weekend, become more frequent.

So our burning question today is the so-called big beautiful bill, which has also been called the big beautiful climate-killing bill, has been signed into law.

So, Shannon, what does this mean for the energy transition?

Yeah, I'm just going to start out by saying it's hard to overestimate how devastating this bill will be to renewables in the United States.

If you think about kind of the long history of U.S. climate action, we waited quite literally decades to get a bill that was trying to boost wind and solar, to get all of

these technologies on the grid, to encourage adoption of EVs. And the big beautiful bill has basically,

in one, you know, big move removed all of those incentives and tax credits that we got from the Inflation Reduction

Act a few years ago. It is hard to overestimate how crushing it could be. Wow. Okay. Not that I was

expecting you to be all rosy about it, but that's a reality check. So let's talk about some of the

specifics. There were a lot of incentives

for both consumers and businesses to install solar panels, to create renewable energy projects.

What goes away immediately? What takes a little while to expire? What are some of the details?

So some of the biggest sort of climate boosting tax credits that we had

were these tax credits for clean energy, particularly wind and solar, but also geothermal, nuclear,

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