Hey, everyone. I'm Amy Scott, host of How We Survive. And while we're hard at work on the next season coming this spring, some news broke earlier this month that we just had to talk about. So we're back with another episode of Burning Questions, our series where we answer what you want to know about the climate crisis. On February 12th, the Trump

administration repealed the endangerment finding. That's the EPA's official determination issued in

2009 that greenhouse gas emissions endanger public health and welfare. And it's the legal foundation for the government's authority to

regulate those emissions. This is a big deal. The repeal means the end of federal greenhouse gas

emissions standards for motor vehicles. The EPA says this will save consumers money, but many see it as a huge setback for climate policy in the United States.

So this episode, we're talking about the economic winners and losers of this repeal.

First, we'll look at the big picture impacts on public health and the economy with a climate scientist.

And then we'll talk about what this means for the U.S. auto industry with a clean energy expert.

So let's get into it.

First, I spoke with Chris Field. He was part of the team from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

He's the director of Stanford University's Woods Institute for the Environment and a professor in Earth System Science and Biology.

So our burning question today is, with the repeal of the endangerment finding, the Trump administration is dismantling U.S. climate policy.

Who are the economic winners and losers of this repeal? You know, I think the big loser is really the American people. I think that

repealing the endangerment finding signals of stepping away from the biggest economic opportunity

and the biggest leadership opportunity of the 21st century.

And I think the consequence of the endangerment finding is that we'll basically subject American consumers to being saddled with legacy technologies moving into the future.

And the big winner, I think, is China. And China has made

amazing commitments to delivering low-cost solar panel, low-cost wind, low-cost electric vehicles.

And I think that that positions them to be a leader in the future. And unfortunately, we're going to have to really

struggle if we want to catch up. And yet the EPA says that repealing the endangerment finding

will save consumers' money. Is that not true? Well, it is true that the cost of purchasing an

efficient vehicle or an electric vehicle is a little bit

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