Burnham down the house – Is Starmer really under threat?

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Seems like King in the North Andy Burnham fancies his chances of taking over Labour and giving the troubled government new direction. Is talk of a leadership fight just pot-stirring – or is Starmer in real trouble? And who else is in the frame? Plus, that video where maverick crimefighter Robert Jenrick chases faredodgers was roundly mocked. But is it smart politics in the Tories’ battle with Reform over the soul of Pissed-Off Britain? And in the Extra Bit for Patreon people, we read Sarah Vine’s Westminster tell-all so you don’t have to. ESCAPE ROUTES • Rachel recommends Giant with John Lithgow at the Harold Pinter Theatre. • Jonn recommends Murderbot by on Apple TV+. • Marie recommends Neither Here Nor There by Bill Bryson. • Alison recommends Fred And Rose: A British Horror Story on Netflix. • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more. Presented by Alison Phillips with Rachel Cunliffe, Jonn Elledge and Marie le Conte. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:57.7	And a new addition to the presenting team, that's me, Alison Phillips, a journalist and former editor
1:02.7	of The Mirror and the co-host of Oh God What Now's new sister podcast, Crime Scene, where
1:08.3	former Met Commissioner Bernard Hogan Howell, myself, go behind the big policing
1:12.3	and crime stories of the week. So on today's show, Kirstama hasn't even been Prime Minister
1:18.1	for a year. Are we really in line for a leadership challenge already? Andy Burnham threw
1:23.3	his hat in the ring last week. John MacDonald is calling for a grassroots leadership challenge,
1:27.8	and you can get odds on everyone from West Streeting and Angela Rainer to Bridget Philipson.
1:32.8	Could Labor really change leaders so early in their first term?
1:36.8	Speaking of which, he's chasing down ticket dodgers and he thinks prison officers need guns.
1:41.8	What on earth is Robert Jenrick up to? He's positioning himself
1:45.6	as the Tory's first ever vigilante leader, but could his pantomime version of right-wing
1:50.1	politics be a smart way of out-foraging forage? And in the extra bit for Patreon backers,
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