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From outside. From Outside magazine, this is the Outside Podcast.

This is the Outside Podcast. It's hard to say when it happens exactly, but at some point, as a journalist, on most stories, you go from someone with all sorts of questions about a topic to someone

whenever a question on that topic comes up who sort of already knows the answer.

You become an authority, whether you mean to or not.

Recently, I went through that process for a podcast about a treasure hunt.

It's called Mist Fortune, we dropped the first episode into this feed,

and as part of that show, I did a bunch of research

on treasure hunting, the history of it,

modern versions of it, the places where treasure hunting

has intersected with art and popular culture. And if I were to boil down the major

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