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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Bunker USA: How American guns fuel Mexico’s cartels

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 20 May 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

America has a gun problem, and not just inside its own borders. Thousands of guns cross into Mexico every year, fuelling an epidemic of violence between drug cartels. Ioan Grillo is the author of ‘Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels’. He’s spent time with gun manufacturers, speaking to FBI agents and at murder scenes to decipher just how deep the issue lies. He joined Seth Thevoz in the Bunker from Mexico City. “Suddenly there were no longer just gang members with shaved heads and tattoos; these were paramilitary organisations with AK47s.” — Ioan Grillo “The level of destruction has increased exponentially.” — Ioan Grillo “For the Mexican cartels the easiest source of guns is the US, there’s a huge supply there and they’re relatively cheap.” — Ioan Grillo “The bloodshed they unleash down here with these weapons, it’s unbelievable.” — Ioan Grillo www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Seth Thevoz. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production: Alex Rees. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Listen to discretion is advised. Welcome to the bunker. I'm Seth Temple. Today I'm joined by the journalist

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Yewen Grillo who spent much of the last two decades based in Mexico City where

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he joins us now. Yewen is the author of the acclaimed book, Blood Gun Money, how America

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arms gangs and cartels, which takes a searing look at the spread of guns through the

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criminal underworld. Yeon, thanks for joining us in the bunker.

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Great to be here Zeph.

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Yeon, what first got you interested in guns and the drugs war?

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So I arrived in Mexico, first of all in the year 2000 started reporting in 2001 and was immediately

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