Hi, Bill Crystal here for Bullwork on Sunday.

I believe that Representative Jim Himes will be joining me, but it may have been a slate.

He is the ranking member on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in the House,

a very respected and influential voice on questions of national intelligence and the intelligence community has been quite

worried and critical about uh telsie gabbert and trump's management of that uh important part of the

u.s government up here we are maybe with there he is hey hello sorry minor technical difficulties

there that's quite okay i was just filibustering and something you're familiar with as a member of

Congress. I know. I gave your bio, so I think people now know you are this representative Jim Himes,

fourth congressional district of Connecticut. Thank you, Jim, for joining me here. And I really

appreciate it. You know, I was saying, this was so just as I was filibustering, I was saying that you succeeded Chris Shea's, who was a pretty good friend of mine, a Republican, McCain, we met, because we were both pretty close to Senator McCain and among other reasons in Washington. And I was saying that your district has been well represented for a long time, right? Chris was there for like 20 years and you've been there longer than I. I think if you as a young member of Congress,

as I was already here, I've been here for so long when you showed up, but you've been, what is this, your eighth term? This is my ninth term. Yeah, I know, you're right. Chris, Jay, it's very good man. By the way, you know, attended the Chicago Democratic presidential nominating convention. I mean, it shows you, sort of shows you the, you know,

sort of the turmoil of our politics.

And I have this theory, nominating convention. I mean, it shows you, sort of shows you, you know, sort of the turmoil of

our politics. And I have this theory bill, probably interesting to no one other than folks in

Connecticut, but, you know, before Chris Ches was Stuart McKinney, very liberal Republican. And by the way,

the nation's sort of landmark homeless rule laws named after the McKinney-Vento Act.

And so my theory is that going from Stuart McKinney, liberal Republican, to Chris Shea's

pretty quite liberal Republican, to Jim Himes, as a centrist Democrat in this era, is actually

not all that much of an ideological shift in the representation of the district.

Not at all. I wish there were more like Chris and like you, honestly, and on your side of the aisle,

though there's not only you or at least are in the mainstream of your party, whereas Chris

Shay's, and I last saw Chris in October of 2024, we were both at an event supporting vice president,

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