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🗓️ 20 November 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Bull James (formerly known as Bull Demspey at NXT) made his pro-wrestling debut at the age of 17, spent 18 months working with Taz, got schooled in the biz by Matt Borne (aka Doink The Clown), and has some great stories about the one & only, Dusty Rhodes. Bull's also talking about mean streaks & flipping the switch, cutting a good promo, his NXT try out, when he knew his days at WWE were numbered, body types in the squared circle, and some of his own heroes in the biz.
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| 0:00.0 | From Hollywood, California, by way of the Broken Skull Ranch, this is the Steve Austin Show. |
| 0:05.6 | Give me a hell yeah. |
| 0:07.1 | Hell yeah! |
| 0:08.3 | Now, here's Steve Austin. |
| 0:10.3 | All right, everybody, welcome to Steve Austin show. |
| 0:12.2 | I'm coming to you to the Main Street to Los Angeles, California. |
| 0:15.6 | Sitting here at my desk at 316 Gimmock Street, watching his secondhand on this pearl, beer, and neon neon clock spin around like a rotissory chicken. Over to my right, Hershey's Warnad Dog is asleep. Over in the back room, Mula is over there waiting for someone to play with her. My wife is sitting right in front of me. She's over her paying bills. That's right. They send those gimmicks. They call bills in the mail to my place, too. |
| 0:39.2 | And if you don't pay them, they'll turn off your electricity, your water, and take your cars back. So she's paying all our bills. She's not going to join me on today's podcast. And today's podcast is a good one. Here's how today's podcast happened. man a couple weeks ago i ago, I got a direct message from Bull James, Bull Dempsey, as he was |
| 0:58.4 | known down there in NXT, NXT future endeavored him, and he is no longer |
| 1:03.4 | Bull Dempsey on the independent scene and would ring of honor. |
| 1:07.6 | He's Bull James, and he shot me his phone number, and I called him out of the blue. |
| 1:12.5 | We just sat there and talked about the business a couple of times, 30-minute, 45-minute |
| 1:17.2 | conversation, just shooting a breeze. I really enjoyed talking to the guy. And I said, you know what? |
| 1:23.0 | I'll bring him on a damn podcast, have a conversation with him, see what he's up to since he's |
| 1:27.5 | departed in NXT and he's out there on the indie scene. |
| 1:29.9 | So he's a great guy. |
| 1:31.7 | I really enjoyed talking to him, and I think he'd enjoy this conversation. |
| 1:34.8 | He's got some good dusty stories, and he's got some good stories of his own, along with |
| 1:38.9 | some good Matt Bourne stories, who used to play Doin the Clown. |
| 1:42.4 | And it was interesting to talk about Matt Bourne because he was |
| 1:45.4 | so influential on my career back in 89 and 90 when I started off in Dallas. And then Matt Bourne |
| 1:52.6 | would end up in Jersey and able to help out a young Bull James on the independent scene there |
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