So there's like two things I want to touch on.

First, did you say that 15 minutes ago?

I don't think we got to thing number two.

So the first did a therapist, did you talk to therapists

about this money thing?

Not about money.

I had a whole lot of other things.

Yeah, but did a therapist kind of help you realize this?

It was more about, it came down to like, so we were talking before, I'm really into like the

the personal finance community you know and understanding like what money means to me and

what financial independence would look like does that look like sitting on a couch does that look like traveling Does that look like sitting on a couch? Does that look like

traveling? Does that look like starting more businesses? Like what does retirement look like to me? And what are the decisions I'm making to get there? And so it's all of like that self kind of analysis and then also

realizing I was having very kind of oversized reactions to catalyst that were coming up like

yeah who loses their mind over a roof leak.

Exactly. Yeah, I think we all have like a little weird things that trigger us because I've

seen it with other investors in our wealthy investor community but so second thing I was

going to touch on was there was a quote or I was listening to some motivational

speech where most people see successful people and who they think

is who they think are successful and they think oh they were just born that way but in reality they weren't. They had to grow into that person. So even though you

might be like kind of nervous to take on more debt or take more risk, you know, eventually I think you'll you'll take baby steps. Yeah, I think so too.

The needle because money's an amplifier. Exactly. So like if you can handle a small amount well you can also handle a big amount well and given that I could handle a small amount while and grow a business without much and still manage it.

Yeah, absolutely.

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