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The Stacking Benjamins Show

Building Your Personal Finance Curriculum (At Any Age) SB1824

The Stacking Benjamins Show

Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

Personal Finance, Financial Planning, Education, Retirement, Investing, Cfp, Business, Money

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Most of us were never taught this stuff. So, where do you actually start? Thirty-nine states now require a personal finance course to graduate from high school. That's real progress — and it still might not be enough. Because financial education isn't a one-time event. It's a living curriculum that has to grow with you, stay connected to your actual life, and — crucially — help you get out of your own way when things get emotionally charged. This week, Joe and the crew build that curriculum from the ground up. Whether you're 22 or 52, there's a starting point here for you. Rubin Miller — Financial advisor, founder of Peltoma Capital, and author of the Fortunes and Frictions blog. Came from the investment world before financial planning, which means he sees the whole game differently and isn't afraid to say so on LinkedIn. Paula Pant — Afford Anything host, behavioral finance truth-teller, and the person who goes on record this week with a very confident guess about the trivia answer. OG — The basement's own financial planner, father of a teenager who wants to day trade, and enthusiastic opponent of giving the government any money he doesn't absolutely have to. On building the foundation: Why the first step in any financial plan is an honest accounting of where everything actually stands: income, spending, assets, debt, all of it What's coming up in the next three to five years and why that question matters more than any abstract retirement calculation Why teaching a 17-year-old about mortgages probably doesn't stick and what actually does The one thing traditional savings accounts do really well (hint: it's great for banks, not for you) Why your behavior matters more than your math and what to do about it On protecting what you're building: The insurance mistake most people make: spending too much protecting low-probability events and too little protecting high-probability ones Why disability insurance is more expensive than life insurance and what that price difference is actually telling you When improving your credit score should not be your priority (this one surprises people) Why debt is never really "good," just occasionally less bad On growing your money: What an investment philosophy actually is and why you need one before you pick a single fund The behavioral biases — recency bias, loss aversion, the availability heuristic — that make smart people do dumb things with their portfolios Why nobody ever thinks they're panicking. They just think the circumstances changed. Why taxes are a year-round event, not a February problem The financial media teaches you to chase. New strategy, hot sector, better fund. But the research keeps landing in the same place: most investors' biggest obstacle isn't information. It's themselves. The curriculum that actually helps isn't the one that covers the most ground. It's the one that connects to your real life, your real timeline, and the emotional triggers that quietly blow up even the best-laid plans. Start there. Everything else builds on top. Rubin joins the crew for the first time and immediately plays trivia on Jesse Cramer's behalf — which feels both generous and karmic, given that Jesse and his wife Kelly just welcomed a new baby into the world (on Jesse's birthday, no less). Doug brings the Eddie Murphy birthday trivia energy. Paula goes on record with a very confident guess. OG applies his usual ironclad logic to arrive at his number. Someone wins. Someone absolutely should not have said what they said out loud before the answer was revealed. MENTIONED / RESOURCES Rubin Miller's blog: fortunesandfrictions.com Peltoma Capital: palomacapital.com Rubin on LinkedIn: search Rubin Miller Paula Pant: Afford Anything podcast, wherever you listen OG's calendar: stackingbenjamins.com/OG Wall Street Journal piece on personal finance requirements by state New to the basement? Subscribe so you never miss an episode — and if this one made you want to finally build your own financial curriculum, that's the whole point. FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/looking-at-your-money-report-card-1824 Deeper dives with curated links, topics, and discussions are in our newsletter, The 201, available at https://www.StackingBenjamins.com/201 Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh, I just can't get these numbers to add up.

0:03.0

Like we're never gonna get out of this hole.

0:05.0

Credit card debt, does it ever end?

0:07.0

Maybe I can help.

0:08.0

We sure could use it.

0:09.0

We've tried debt consolidation companies.

0:12.0

We've even taken out loans to help make payments.

0:15.0

Did you know millions of Americans live with debt they cannot control?

0:18.0

That's why I developed this unique new program for managing your debt. It's called Don't Buy Stuff You Cannot Afford. Live from the basement of the YouTube headquarters, it's The Stacking Benjamin's show.

0:52.5

I'm Joe's mom's neighbor, Doug, and as we approach graduation season, it's time to look at your own money report card.

0:55.9

What should you know to graduate in your financial life?

0:58.6

Today we're helping you create a better curriculum to learn about personal finance

1:00.6

with a fantastic team of contributors

1:02.9

and a live YouTube audience.

1:05.9

And that audience will be helping us along

1:08.2

except when it comes to our year-long trivia contest at the

1:12.8

halfway point of the show. And now, a guy who's helped lots of people graduate with

1:18.5

better money habits, it's Joe Sal Sihai.

1:25.9

Hey, there, Stackers, and happy Friday to you. Welcome back to the Stack of Benjamin Show. I am Joe Salci hi, and I'm super happy that you're here, whether you're here with us live on YouTube or you're listening at home on Friday. We got a great show for you today because this idea of a financial curriculum, we know there's a bunch of stuff that we need to know. And I also know that when we do these podcasts three times a week, we skip around a lot. So how do we build that foundation from the bottom? Well, today we've got a team that's going to help you with that, including the guy who just so eloquently did the introduction. Mom's neighbor Doug is here. How are you, man? I'm great. I love when you say that I did it eloquently. It's like I'm Charlton-Heston reading from the phone. Like, I can make anything to sound like with the cool British accent. It's great for my ego. So thanks, Joe. I'm not saying that you're Don McDonald from talking real money. You're not at that level, but you're the next step. Thanks for keeping my feet on the ground. Doug, we do got a great show today.

2:18.7

I mean, you outlined it pretty well.

2:20.3

This idea of a financial curriculum, that's something you can get behind. Oh, yeah, we all need a playbook. We all need a recipe once in a while, and we're here to dish it out. And a guy who's got the recipe every Friday and Monday and Wednesday, Mr. O. G's here with us. How are you, man?

2:36.5

Well, I'm great. How are you? I am happy to be here, Joe. First time caller, long time listener.

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