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Like pretty much anything in life it's going to take work but you can better

understand your spouse you've got to be willing to kind of push your way through

conflict especially if you're going to find true

intimacy. I'm John Fuller joined by Dr. Greg Smalley and right now let's listen to

more of a conversation that Jim Daly and I had with Dr Larry Crab on what it means to become

one with your spouse.

Hey Larry, let's pick up. I want to ask you this question.

Is there a, you know, again, both men and women we tend to some personalities work well with checklists is there a way to recognize this in us this selfishness you've been describing

so often with kids I think with my own boys I asked them to

step back when they're emotionally out of control and take a deep breath or take a

time out. Is there a mechanism that you and Rachel used early on to train yourselves to say, okay, here's my human response.

Okay, I'm going to step back from that. What did you use as triggers?

I think there's maybe two keys to that. One is do we have in our minds what I like

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