Hi, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonia Dodge. This week we have a special guest host, Christian Rivera from Dopamine is here with us, I and T.P. How are you doing Christian?

I'm good. Thanks for having me. Welcome to the show this week. I'm having some struggle,

Antonio and Christian. My daughter Piper is age 8 and she has these games she's playing on our phone.

Like sometimes I give her my phone. If you're a parent listening, you probably have this experience,

your kid comes up to you and can I play

what's the new one roadblocks now this at the time this recording it's really popular all

these all these games and apps that she's playing and she's she came and showed me this

morning as I was waking up she's like look she's she came and showed me this morning as I was

waking up she's like look look what I'm look what I'm doing dad I'm making pizzas and I

looked down and she's like dragging pepperoni with her finger onto dough on this

little app and putting in the oven and it's coming

down a conveyor belt and she's like isn't this great and I'm just thinking no

it's not great like in my mind I'm as a dad I'm like oh cool that's great you know I'm giving her a lot of support but

I'm kind of horrified because I'm I'm realizing she's building skill and moving

colors around on a screen with her finger and she thinks she's doing

something that's like a skill or something that's valuable in the world and I'm I'd like I kind

of want her to be actually making a real pizza not just doing it in an app and so I'm struggling as a dad because I want her to be actually making a real pizza, not just doing it in an app.

And so I'm struggling as a dad because I want her to have games and play and feel accomplished.

But I also realize that there might be some challenge here in that she is synthetically feeling like she's building competency,

she's overcoming challenges and I'm not exactly sure how to play this very well and I think I'm going

to I think I'm going to encourage us Antonio to start limiting this for her and find real applications in the real world for her

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