Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Bob and Friends podcast. Hope it's been a great week for you.

If it's like most people's weeks, there's probably some really cool stuff that happen and then some really deeply troubling stuff.

Maybe you dodge that bullet with a deeply troubling stuff,

but it's just like a combination plate.

It isn't like if you want fish or chicken,

it's like the whole buffet.

And so one person that I'd love for you to know more about,

and I'm sure you've heard of Liz Bohanna before,

but like that she is a person that

has gone through the food line with me. Like we've been speaking at places in a former life when I

went out and spoke of places. And she is, we harkened way back to Africa days and all that.

But most importantly, she's a voice that I trust. And so Liz,

welcome to the podcast. Thanks so much for having me, Bob. It is such a delight to see your face,

to get to connect. And even that intro just feels so true. It's just like I feel personally,

like I am in a season of holding just some high highs and amazing joys and also

just some grief and sorrow in one of those seasons where you're like, you know what, the well is

deep. The well is deep. And when you're well for joy and fulfillment and passion is deep,

I typically find so is your well for grief and sorrow and just

walking through some hard things with some friends. And so I'm just grateful for that intro.

I feel like that's, that's where I'm at where maybe some of our listeners might be today too.

Yeah. So sometimes what we have is we want to be really upbeat and most of us that run in this posse here

tend towards the upbeat and the positive once possible. And yet there's a lot of just gut

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