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Hello and welcome to the Fighter pilot podcast. I am your host Vincent Iolo Callsine-Gello,

and this week we are between numbered episodes, but we don't want to leave you hanging.

We have another fantastic interview by our very good friend and former U.S. Air Force flight test

engineer Ken Katz, who's back to talk about the interview before we get to it. How's it going

there prime time? Oh, it's been great. It's been a really busy summer, but it's been a fun summer.

How are you doing? You sound tired. I guess it must have been tough summer, so I'm good. Thanks for

asking. What's kept you so busy that you're allowed to share? Oh, well, let's get started. In May,

my oldest daughter graduated from law school. Congratulations. And thank you. Thank you. And then I

spent much of May and June, TDI and Phoenix. We're doing some testing on one of our company's

products. It was a fascinating test program. I worked with some great people, and we're doing

something that's very important to the military. But what time of year did you say you were in Phoenix?

The time when it's very hot. Someone planned that poorly, but okay. That's the way it goes.

Then in July, I went to EA Air Venture in Oshkosh as usual, and that's just incredible.

It's great times with a lot of friends, old and new, nearly infinite amount of aviation stuff.

I gave a talk about the history of the B1. There were about 200 people there. Did two book signings.

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