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Today we'll be talking about building an online course empire from students to business owner in 10 million dollars in sales to drop these value bombs.

I brought Nick Stevenson into EO Fire Studios. Nick is a USA today bestselling author course creator and software company co founder learn how to create and launch your own digital course at create awesome online courses.

And today we'll be chatting about how it's still possible to build successful online courses. We'll talk about how to do it even if you don't have a huge ads budget.

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Nick say what's up to fire nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with what's up for a nation and that probably sounds very strange in a British accent.

Thank you so much for having me on the podcast and this was this was a question I put some thought into because there's so much out there in terms of kind of assumptions and misinformation that a lot of people kind of don't get there.

Heads around but I think for me probably the biggest thing most people would disagree with is I believe that you don't need permission from somebody else or somebody else is kind of approval to be successful.

Especially if you're starting your own business so many people I hear from they get so worried that what they're doing might not be good enough or that they're not enough of an expert maybe they're not the number one person on the planet at something so do they have permission to succeed in that field.

And again with authors as well I talked a lot of authors and they worry and worry about whether they're writing is good enough and who's going to tell them yes this is good enough and from where I'm standing I think it's up to you to kind of give yourself permission to be successful so you have have confidence in your own skills to get where you want to be and don't wait for somebody else to kind of tell you what to do and to tell you when you're ready because only you are going to know that.

I think for me that's something a lot of people kind of assume has to be the case so you know that's where I'm coming from on that I don't know what you think.

Well I can tell you if I was waiting for permission from somebody to launch entrepreneurs on fire back in 2012 when almost nobody heard of what a podcast is I'd still be waiting fire nation I'd still be waiting because nobody was going to give me permission and I didn't look for it I didn't ask for it I just went ahead and did it.

And guess what fire nation today as I mentioned during the intro we're talking about building an online course empire and we got Nick here today who did at one point have a nine to five or maybe it was like more like most people where you really do the math it's like eight to six or what finally

convinced you to quit the day job.

I like to call it the DDJ or the dreaded day job and I mean this is kind of what we were all conditioned towards at school was you know you do you schooling and then you go to university or college to go into a specific field and I was one of these fairly useless students who was kind of a little bit

directionless didn't really know what kind of field I wanted to go into. So I ended up doing English at university English literature which is has almost no real world implication whatsoever and then eventually switched to law which I found I thought you know this

is my ticket to a stable career that I'll enjoy and then it turned out I didn't enjoy law in the slightest so ended up randomly going into a marketing job at a very large multinational corporation and it was okay for a while but then I think like a lot of people who are working corporate

roles you kind of often end up feeling like you're just one cog in the machine like there's many lots and lots of machines in there and your one tiny cog and it kind of felt like whatever I was doing didn't have an impact

overall so that was kind of what I learned about myself was I want to be able to create something that has an impact let me just break in here for a second because I think this is an

important point to sit on for just a minute. Fire Nation if there's some common theme I've heard over the years it's that people want their work to matter they want what they do to make an impact if you're

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