Building AI for Creators | Luma & Phota Labs

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🗓️ 30 June 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Yoko Li speaks with Luma's Head of Applied Research Matt Tancik and Phota Labs cofounder and CTO Zach Xia about how AI is changing creativity, photography, and the tools people use to make art. The conversation explores the evolving relationship between artists and AI, from image generation and personalization to creative workflows, controllability, and agentic design tools. They discuss personalization, photography, creative software, model design, evaluation, and why the future of creative tools may depend less on generating content and more on helping people express ideas they couldn't easily realize before. Along the way, they explore AI agents, interfaces, and how creators are already using these tools in unexpected ways.

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0:00.0	I think the creativity is building a story.
0:02.6	The tools alone aren't a story.
0:04.6	Someone has to direct them.
0:05.7	It's not about mastering those tools.
0:07.7	It's about directing an agent who can use those tools
0:11.0	to achieve your creativity.
0:12.2	Generative AI has become so good.
0:14.3	You can be sort of authentic to that moment
0:16.6	while getting a little bit creative of stuff.
0:18.7	So I just think a lot of photographers
0:20.6	are having more fun post capturing than before.
0:23.6	How do you make something unique with the tools you have access to now?
0:27.6	There has to be something more than just text.
0:29.6	If you go to, say, a studio and you say, make me a 10-second video about a dog jumping in the grass.
0:36.6	They're never going to take that deal. They're going to want more specific. And I think AI tools are no different.
0:41.3	Something I heard from someone today earlier was they assume AI to be slop. It's up to the humans to create something out of it. What are your thoughts? I feel like that's such a hard question.
0:53.3	Creative tools have always changed the way people make art. Photography What are your thoughts? I feel like that's such a hard question.
0:57.4	Creative tools have always changed the way people make art.
0:59.3	Photography changed painting.
1:01.6	Digital software changed photography.
1:07.3	And now AI is changing how images, videos, and entire creative workflows come together.
1:10.5	The technology is improving at an incredible pace,
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