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Building AI Agents on the Frontend with Sam Bhagwat and Abhi Aiyer

Software Engineering Daily

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4.4662 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Most AI agent frameworks are backend-focused and written in Python, which introduces complexity when building full-stack AI applications with JavaScript or TypeScript frontends. This gap makes it harder for frontend developers to prototype, integrate, and iterate on AI-powered features. Mastra is an open-source TypeScript framework focused on building AI agents and has primitives such as

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0:00.0

Most AI agent frameworks are backend focused and written in Python, which introduces complexity

0:06.4

when building full-stack AI applications with JavaScript or TypeScript front-ends.

0:12.4

This gap makes it harder for front-end developers to prototype, integrate, and iterate on

0:17.5

AI-powered features.

0:19.5

Mastra is an open-source TypeScript framework focused on building AI agents and has primitives

0:25.0

such as agents, tools, workflows, and Ragh.

0:28.7

Sam Bogwatt and Abbe Iyer are co-founders at Mastra.

0:32.8

They join the podcast with Nick Nisi to talk about this state of front-end tooling for AI agents,

0:38.8

AI agent primitives, MCP integration, and more. Nick Nisi is a conference organizer, speaker,

0:47.0

and developer focused on tools across the web ecosystem. He has organized and emceived several

0:53.1

conferences and has led Nebraska J. JS for more than a decade.

0:57.4

Nick currently works as a developer experience engineer at WorkOS.

1:15.1

Welcome to Software Engineering Daily.

1:19.7

Today's episode features the founders of Mastra, and I'd like to welcome to the show, Sam Bagwat and Abbey Iyer.

1:21.8

How's it going, guys?

1:23.1

Hey, great to be here.

1:24.7

Great to have you.

1:26.0

Sam, why don't you go first and introduce yourself?

1:28.6

So probably I'm best known for being the co-founder of Gatsby, and I worked at a few

1:35.1

startups around the Valley before that as an engineer.

1:39.7

But I'm also the author of a book called Principles of Building AI Agents, and now the co-founder and

1:46.3

CEO of Mastra. Nice. Well, welcome to the show. Happy to have you. And I've definitely heard of Gatsby. Abby Yer. Abbey, why don't you introduce yourself? Oh, yeah, I'm Avi I'm the CTO and the co-founder of Mastra. we also have a third co-founder.

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