Build Your 15-Year Career, with Kiersten and Julien Saunders

Afford Anything

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.6 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

#408: When Kiersten and Julian Saunders began dating in 2012, they fell in love quickly, and their relationship felt strong – until they started talking about money. They broke up as a result of their first money conversation. Luckily, they got back together, figured out how to have tough conversations, and paid off $200,000 in debt over the next five years. Then they started thinking about how to hack their careers. They came up with a plan for a 15-year career. Today, they join us on the podcast to talk about the 15-year career framework and how to approach your career - and your finances - in 5 year stints. Timing of discussion points as per October 2022: 00:25: Introduction to Kiersten and Julien Saunders 02:05: The money conversation that changed everything 11:25: Examples of interaction patterns around money discussions 12:08: Tactics to continue difficult money conversations 16:18: Starting a 15-year career 17:48: The focus of the first five years: your financial foundation 18:17: Transitioning to the second five years and defining your super power at work 18:50: Building your exit plan in the last five years 22:57: Thinking about side hustles and the factors of urgency and upside 24:29: How does a person know how to make money 29:28: Maintaining momentum towards your goals over the 15 year time span 31:37: Is it possible to accelerate the 15 year timeline? 35:12: Thinking about risk after your career Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	You can afford anything but not everything.
0:11.6	Every choice that you make is a trade-off against something else, and that doesn't just
0:15.1	apply to your money.
0:16.4	That applies to your time, your focus, your energy, your attention, any limited resource
0:21.8	that you need to manage, saying yes to something implicitly carries trade-offs.
0:27.0	And that opens up two questions.
0:28.5	First, what matters most?
0:30.4	And second, how do you make decisions aligned with that which matters most?
0:37.3	Answering these two questions is a lifetime practice, and that's what this podcast is
0:42.2	here to explore and facilitate.
0:45.3	My name is Paula Pant.
0:46.3	I'm the host of the Affordable Care and Health Podcast.
0:48.3	The podcast that is all about opportunity costs and therefore priorities.
0:53.0	Today we talked to Kirsten and Julian Saunders about the 15-year career.
1:01.8	Now Kirsten and Julian Saunders started dating in 2012, and shortly after they began dating,
1:08.7	they had their first money conversation, and it was so bad it broke them up.
1:14.6	Fortunately, they got back together, they figured out how to have tough money conversations,
1:20.7	they paid off more than $200,000 in debt over the span of five years, and then they started
1:27.7	thinking about whether or not they really needed to buy into this concept of a 40-year
1:34.1	career.
1:35.6	How short could a career potentially be?
1:38.6	And so they came up with a framework called the 15-year career, and that's a big piece
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