All right, Cathies. We're going to start today's episode off with a long-time listener and several

time guest, Kevin Gold. Kevin, give us your background for any new Kathy's out there.

Yeah, it's great to be back guys.

Good to see you.

I can't believe we're actually at the end of January now,

which is wild.

That quickly, the years flown by.

Quick background, starting the entertainment side, was managing a lot of

YouTube and digital talent for years and then kind of had a thesis around six years ago that I wanted to start building brands with and kind of around influencers.

And I had Angel invested in a beauty company previous to that.

And so, yeah, around six years ago I launched my first

beauty brand it's called INA chair I did that with my co-founder Sharon and Jordan

who are or who were the first two employees of Color Pop Cosmetics and then a year later

launched Glametic which is a press on nail and eyelash brand and did that

with my co-founder Ann and so yeah the last I mean last five or six years have been heavy on the

consumer brand side it's been you know been a wild wild time ups and downs yeah but it's

been good so one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on

is just talk about the state of obviously brands and consumer,

but more interesting, you just came back from China.

Boots on the ground.

Butts on this.

Now you can speak freely on China.

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