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After the dust settles, you know, and you, the romantic fairy tale is over. Sometimes when that happens, a lot of couples

lose sight of that bigger picture, right? And so it's not just enough to say I do, but you have to say

I still do. That's Tondra Gregory, and she's here with her husband, George, on Focus on the Family with Jim Daly, and I'm John Fuller. You know, John, marriage is such a unique institution. You know, it's created by God, but it's so funny that he draws opposites typically together. It seems to be his plan. People always say, what's the question you want to ask God when you get there? You know, why do people suffer? I think I'm going to say, why did you have opposites attract? And I think it is humorous, but I think the reason is to work off our rough edges. You know, Gene and I, the thing we work on still is how not to trigger each other verbally. You know, we know each other's buttons, and we have made that quiet commitment to hold our tongue so that we don't do that little jab thing to each other. That's maturing in Christ. So you're not agitating your wife, which makes no sense to me actually when you think about it. For some reason,

I love to do that. But, you know, the Lord's kind of going, how'd that work for you? It doesn't

work, you know, and partly because the scripture's calling us to lay our lives down to sacrifice

for each other. And in doing that, you become more like Christ, which I think is the whole goal of marriage.

Yeah, yeah. I heard Charles Stanley years ago say, what can we do together? And I've kind of

adopted that for my marriage with Dina, where we have moments like that, Jim. And it is the better

power of valor to step back and not continue the triggers. We want healthy, happier marriages

here at Focus. and that's what

the show is about today. After 30 years of marriage, George and Tondra Gregory are experienced experts,

let's say, in helping others build strong relationships. They're the official chaplains for

the Los Angeles Chargers and previously served as marriage ministry leaders at Saddleback Church.

Together, they've written a great book that forms the foundation for our conversation today,

The Marriage Game Plan, developing a winning strategy for marital success.

And you can learn more about the Gregories in this excellent book on our website. The link is

in the show notes. Welcome to both of you. Glad to have you on focus on the family. Thank you for having

us. Now, I'm going to look the other way about the Chargers thing because I'm a Broncos fan. Sure.

But, you know, I'll bite my lip here. No, I love football. And it's just so much fun to watch these guys hone that skill and be there. But what's interesting in any sporting environment with professional athletes, I think the divorce rate is quite high. Have you seen that? I mean, in terms of their ability to do everything, to be at the top of their game, to manage a home and be engaged.

What have you observed in the sports arena?

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