Hello, Winebbers. My name is Jesse Meekham and this is podcast number 453 for Wineab, where we teach

you four rules to help you stop having paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt, and save more money.

A lot of the time, what we're facing is something very large.

We're talking about big behavior change, big strides in making and having a lasting big financial impact on us, perhaps on our

kids and maybe even leaving a legacy along with that. Today I am pleased to tell you that I have with me pre-recorded author

Robin Connley Downs. She is, well you know what, let me don't, let me not, let me just

make this official, let me just read you her bio because the

interview that follows is impressive. So more on that in just one moment. Robin Connolly Downs is a speaker,

educator, entrepreneur, podcaster, and author of The Feel Good Effect, reclaim your wellness by

creating small shifts that create big change.

Holding a master's degree in education with an emphasis in behavior change and four years of public

policy and health change at the

doctoral level. Her work taps into cutting-edge science around psychology,

neuroscience, mindfulness, and habits. She was recently named one of the most influential women in wellness.

She believes that small shifts in thinking in action create big change in life.

I love that. Small shifts in action and thinking can create big changes in life.

So, well, I will say one thing. The part that we get to,

where you think about your self-talk versus how you would talk to a friend, that alone

was a killer.

And I've caught myself in recent days doing just that to myself. So without further ado Robin Connolly Downs. Yeah, well my name's

Robin and I am so excited about this particular conversation actually because I have not been on a

podcast talking about the relationship with mindset and habits to money and budgeting and

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