Regular listeners of the Rialto report will know that over the last few years, I've spoken to many female adult film actors who were active from the 1960s through to the late 1980s. And as interesting as their

experiences were, it also intrigued me to find out what it was like to be a male in the business

during the same time. So a few months ago, I contacted actor, director, agent, and X-rated

film producer Bud Lee to hear about his life, which I was

curious to learn about, not only because of his career, but also due to his marriages to two of

the biggest stars of the 1980s and 90s, Hyapacia Lee and Asia Carrera. In the first part of my

conversation with Bud, he spoke about how he got into the industry

with Hyapacia and the struggles they encountered being a couple in the business.

This episode picks up in the late 1980s, when their relationship broke down, just as Bud's career

making films for companies such as Vivid, Playboy, and Adam and Eve was taking off.

And Bud is still working today, filming scenes of being an agent.

And his reflections on the vast changes that he's seen in the industry,

as well as the people involved, make for fascinating listening.

I'm April Hall.

This is The Realta Report, and this is part two of my conversation with Bud Lee.

I found myself alone. Surrounded by strangers, I thought were my friends. I found myself further and further from my home, and I guess I lost my way.

When you separated from Hyapacia, did you feel like your breakup had been a long time coming?

I think with her it might have been. I was fine. She really wanted to switch over to the music business and she started meeting people in

the music business. And I think she's someone that falls in love with talent. You don't have to be a

good looking person. You don't have to be a gorgeous Adonis or anything. Just be talented and

that's enough for her to fall in love with you. So she, while still married to me, was writing music with these guys and she

started falling for one of them. And she did the same thing with him, though. Let's go back to

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