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Welcome to the Buck Brief everybody, this episode.

Josh Hammer is with us.

You can say it's Hammer Time.

He is the Article 3 Project Senior Council council and host of America on trial with

Josh Hammer and Josh before I dive into everything are you are you a true crime fan or is your

wife because my wife says she is and then we watch it and she gets scared.

So if it's like some heinous murder or something I'm like maybe we shouldn't watch this honey.

I mean buck truth be told I wouldn't even know because every time we try to watch Netflix before going to sleep,

my wife typically falls asleep within five minutes.

So I wouldn't even know the answer to that question to be honest with. Yeah, it is amazing how quickly my shoulder,

which I've never thought of

is a super comfortable place to sleep.

Carrie can pass out on my shoulder three minutes

as, by the way, especially if we have spent 15 minutes going over what

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