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Hey everybody, welcome to the buck brief on this episode.

Rob Smith joins us, my buddy, he is the host of Can't cancel Rob Smith, which still true because he's here and he has not been canceled.

So there you go.

The unique selling proposition of your program so far, Rob, accurate in that you have not been canceled good to see you

good to see you too brother thanks for having me you know let's start with so

Rob is is a gay black man as well as a concern do you still self-described as

conservative I describe as more of a right-leaning independent you know also a

veteran as well for for the new folks that may not be familiar with me but I identify right

now as pretty much a right-leaning independent will never be a lib will never be

a Democrat will never ever ever be on the left again. I think a lot of people are

kind of confused about that when I get a little critical of folks on our side of the aisle.

So I'm because what I want to ask you about was last year this time it's Pride Month everybody and Rob

used to used to have a line on his show that he was America's favorite black gay veteran right I think wasn't that?

Well no I used to call myself when I first started doing all the stuff he's

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