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Is there a tactical retreat underway in Minneapolis for the Trump White House?

What happens now to the immigration enforcement agenda?

Caroline Sunshine is with us to talk about this. She was formerly working in the Trump White House

and the first administration and communications. And she's also a former Disney star and now a

commentator on all things going on there. We'll get to the Disney stuff later, Caroline.

Tell me, first of all, thank you for being here.

Nice to have you on for the first time.

What should they be doing now for the messaging was bad by Nome after this whole thing went down?

I think that's pretty clear.

And there's now the finger pointing about someone told me to say it or I, whatever what do they do now how do they fix this mess to get it focused back on the policy

of enforcing immigration law yeah thanks for having me first of all you don't play into the narrative

trap that Democrats in the media are very clearly laying you know Alex Prett Preti's death was a tragedy, but it was no more of a tragedy than any of the thousands of Americans

who have lost their life to excessive use of force by an illegal immigrant.

And a lot of them, you've never heard their names because the media intentionally keeps their names out of the media.

I thought my first reaction, or one of my first reactions to the news coming out of Minneapolis was, wow, I can't remember the last time the mainstream media cared this much about a white guy dying.

They never care about white men dying. You know, I mean, opioid deaths in this country for the longest time with the leading

cause of death for men ages 18 to 45.

We have an epidemic where the lifespan of American men is being shorted by on average,

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