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Listeners, it's time for us to talk about the page of Cups, Messenger of Love, Cut Bearer of All in the Substance of Inspiration.

We are diving in deep with our guest today, Jonathan Co, a astrologer, tarot lover, musician, and Pisces. Stay with us just for the pleasure of it.

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So our guest today, Jonathan, co and I go in deep to the more esoteric meaning of the page of cups today. So I just wanted to start you all out with a brief synopsis of what this card might mean for you. If it comes up in a reading kind of which basic style.

So generally we can think of the pages as messengers. They bring news of something like a warm breeze that suggests spring is finally arriving because the suit of cups corresponds to water, emotion and relationships.

We might call the page of cups the messenger of love. This page is sensitive. Emo, we might even say there a musician, a poet, their text message game is strong.

They're the one who carries tinctures of wild rose and their purse to help you find the romance in any situation.

You might have a job working at a preschool, for instance, if this page shows up in your life as someone else, they'll bring comfort and care, but make sure to appreciate them.

Oftentimes the people whose presence is a bomb to be around get taken for granted. We can just bask in the comfort they offer us for getting to be in reciprocity with that love that they bring.

This page is love language is gift giving and acts of care. So go ahead and make them that playlist. Bring them that hand dip candle and run a bath for them to show them that you know they need to be appreciated.

Now, if this page is you, you are an inspire a bringer of all in the substance of inspiration. So make sure you're remembering to refill your own cup.

Go to places that inspire you and bring you joy. If this page comes up in a reading museums, forests, live music, bookstores, whatever it is that you love, you need to go spend some time dwelling in it and getting recharged by that.

The lick serve inspiration that it brings. The page of cups is sometimes also considered naive, but in fact, he just prefers to see people in the best light possible.

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