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MMA Fighting

BTL | Is Jon Jones Trolling Everybody? Plus, Ilia Topuria Makes Major Move, More

MMA Fighting

Vox Media Podcast Network

Sports News, Sports, News

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

UFC heavyweight champ Jon Jones continues to be at the center of the news cycle as he discusses his plans for a return to the octagon, and a potential fight with interim champ Tom Aspinall. While he says he's not "retired," Jones continues to send fans on an emotional rollercoaster ride. But is Jones to blame for the insanity going on in the UFC's heavyweight title picture? On an all-new edition of Between the Links, the panel discusses Jones' latest comments on social media, if he's trolling the fanbase at this point, and the UFC's choice to continue with Jones as heavyweight champ while Aspinall is approaching a year on the sidelines. Additionally they'll answer questions regarding Ilia Topuria parting ways with his longtime coaches ahead of his UFC 317 lightweight title fight with Charles Oliveira, the upcoming fight cards, Patchy Mix officially signing with the UFC to face Mario Bautista at UFC 316, and much more. Join MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew as they turn the programming of the show over to the fans all show long. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:09.2

Live from M.MA fighting studios, this is Between the Links.

0:16.2

And now, your host, Mike Heck.

0:23.6

The iconic voice of Esther Lynn welcomes you to a brand new edition of BTL. Happy Thursday to us all.

0:32.8

Sorry for the late star that is completely on me and completely on Sparklight, my internet service.

0:39.2

Hopefully we can get that squared away in a day or two. Maybe you guys can hit up Sparklight

0:45.4

for me and demand that they get my Wi-Fi working the way it needs to work to do this show

0:51.1

and other programs. But thanks for joining us. You guys have a lot on your minds.

0:55.0

I've been seeing it on social media all week long.

0:57.2

So today we're turning the programming over to you guys and joining me to hear your complaints,

1:02.5

to answer your questions and everything else.

1:05.0

He's back on the show, Mr. No Gray Area, the hot take kid, the one and only,

1:09.9

Jed Mishu, the climber of all climbers.

1:12.4

There he is.

1:13.2

Welcome back.

1:15.1

Man, so good to be back.

1:16.9

Been gone for a couple of weeks.

1:19.5

You know, Mike, you always say you got to give the people time to miss you.

1:22.9

I was on other shows, so I don't know how much they missed me.

1:25.8

But I missed you, and I'm happy to be back

1:28.4

here.

1:30.2

Yes, it's good to have you here.

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