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🗓️ 6 November 2025
⏱️ 99 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Defenders and cybersecurity are always there when we need them. |
| 0:03.0 | They should get a parade every time they block a novel threat |
| 0:07.0 | and have streets, sandwiches, and babies named in their honor. |
| 0:10.0 | But most of all, they deserve AI cybersecurity that can stop novel threats |
| 0:15.0 | before they become breaches across email, clouds, networks, and more. |
| 0:19.0 | Dark Trace is the cybersecurity defenders deserve and the one |
| 0:22.6 | they need to defend beyond. Visit darktrace.com forward slash defenders for more information. |
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| 0:43.8 | You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network. |
| 0:56.2 | Live from MMA fighting studios. This is Between the Links. |
| 1:02.5 | And now, your host, Mike Heck. |
| 1:13.2 | The iconic voice of Esther Lynn welcomes you to a brand new edition of BTL. Happy Thursday to us all. And you know, when we do shows like this, the one thing we hope for is that we have things to talk |
| 1:19.3 | about. And holy crap, do we have things to talk about on today's program? Doing the Q&A today |
| 1:25.8 | because really there's one massive topic and I'm sure there's |
| 1:29.2 | eight billion questions about it so we figured hey let's just go live and let's talk about |
| 1:34.7 | that and if you guys have other things to talk about we'll talk about that as well and joining |
| 1:39.0 | me to discuss those things and much more is the hot take kid himself mr.. No Gray area, the climber of all climbers, |
| 1:47.2 | the one and only, Jed Bishu, who is multitasking away, and he's got a four on the board for |
| 1:53.4 | UFC Vegas 111. That is correct, Mike. Glad to be here. I've had the last two days off, |
| 2:00.0 | which was just terrific. |
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