Behind the knife, the Surgery Podcast, where we take a behind the scenes intimate look at surgery

from leaders in the Night. This is

Karan Chabra from the Animals of Surgery and Behind the Knife joint

Journal Club podcast and we have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Sherry Wren today.

Dr. Wren is the director of

Global Surgery and Professor of Surgery at Stanford University. She's also their

vice chair for professional development and diversity and the director of

clinical surgery at the Palo Alto VA.

Her clinical practices in GI surgical oncology,

and she also manages to Stanford's educational surgical partnerships

in sub-Saharan Africa.

So we invited Dr. Wren on to discuss a recent paper that came out in animals of surgery titled Academic Advancement in Global Surgery, Appointment, Promotion, and Tenure. And these are recommendations from American surgical associations Association's Working Group on Global Surgery

on how we can encourage and incentivize people pursuing global surgery to sort of move

along their career trajectory and make contributions globally.

So thanks for joining us, Dr. Wren.

Thank you for asking me.

So Dr. Wren, this is Kevin.

Thank you again for joining us.

Could you discuss with us your entry to global surgery?

And then specifically how you made this a sustainable academic interest.

Was this a typical path?

And then do you have any advice for other surgeons trying to make a impact in the global

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